a friend of mine has a set of stows, he says ,he s found that hes having problems with the line clip not holding the line after using them for a few months..i do own a set of daves danglers... but have chosen to to use my defiant mk2 bobbins which can be clipped on to the line, similar to the stows without any dents to the line,,, these can also be used as a standard type bobbin too....